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A dietitian and doctor review RFK Jr’s new food pyramid : Short Wave : NPR

- March 18, 2026


An upside-down triangle filled with illustrations of different foods. The words "protein, dairy, and healthy fats" are on the top left of the triangle. Those words are surrounded by drawings including a chicken, a steak, a salmon, butter and whole milk. The words "vegetables and fruits" are at the top right, surrounded by drawings of carrots, lettuce, broccoli and other fruits and vegetables. The words "whole grains" are on the bottom point of the triangle surrounded by a loaf of bread and oats.

The new dietary guidelines were announced earlier this year and place more emphasis on meat and dairy than previous guidelines.

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A new food pyramid was released earlier this year. It flips the old food pyramid – which prioritized grains – on its head. Now, the pyramid emphasizes protein, full-fat dairy and what Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. calls “healthy fats.”

These guidelines influence the standards that shape school lunches, food labeling and programs like SNAP.

Today on the show, Short Wave co-host Emily Kwong chats with registered dietitian nutritionist Shana Spence, and Dr. Sarah Kim, a diabetes specialist, about the new guidelines. Plus, NPR’s Reflect America fellow Kadin Mills unpacks how the new food pyramid could change school lunch trays.

Check out more of Kadin’s coverage about the changes in dietary guidelines.

Interested in more health science? Email us your question at shortwave@npr.org.

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This episode was produced by Rachel Carlson and Rebecca Ramirez. It was edited by Brent Baughman. Tyler Jones and Aru Nair checked the facts. The audio engineer was Kwesi Lee. 



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